Gray State: The Rise (Rough Cut) Directed by David Crowley

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  • 1bluebugg

    I do not believe it was a murder suicide. I saw the doc early this morning, just before it was removed. I did not see ANYTHING in his behavior to suggest he could be capable of doing that. Please, find a way to repost it….screw youtube…please, people need to see it ..it’s difficult for his family, but this is his contribution to the world. Much respect to everyone involved, rest in peace david, his wife, child, and my sincere condolences to both their families.

    • Jenjen

      How do we KNOW that this movie The Rise is the intended message of the filmmaker who is now dead?! This is not being released in rebellion to The Man, it has been given to us by The Man. In PLACE of the original, and it’s intentions are suspect. It is pushing their agenda. Watch it, but be skeptical… The truth that is in it, has been horribly twisted to suit their unethical agenda.

      Think about it…look who is in it!

      And this movie is just another distraction and diversion from the ACTUAL TRUTH. And it is feeding the desire to rebel, which we should. But this is obscuring the truth, giving us a target, but it is not accurate. It is an attempt to misguide. All IMHO

      • 1bluebugg

        The actual truth of what? That we’re all being subjugated into a froth filled cup of muddy waters? If that’s the intended truth, they have it pretty correct.

        • Jenjen

          that movie warped the truth. Believe what you want. 🙂 It may all end up the same regardless…

          • 1bluebugg

            Please be specific, was it the history portion, ‘education’, taxes, discrimination, policy? Because I’m seeing the degradation of all of it, and all I’m left with is pennies…

          • Jenjen

            I wrote a ton about it on that page. very specific if youre interested.

          • Jenjen

            In a nutshell…

            There is truth in it, but it has been warped and the solution implied would actually increase income disparity and give more control to the corporations. They “sell” it in the name of “freedom” from the government. The gov is supposed to be for the people and by the people. It SHOULD benefit society to give government some bit of control (tax) but the problem IS our very government is corrupt. We are basically under foreign occupation via the IMF/FED and maybe KSA too.

            The issue is… our government has been over taken by these very “bankers” or whatever. And this movie is full of government/corporate shills.

          • 1bluebugg

            Of course the government is corrupt and out of control! I don’t disagree at all with you there, the only way a bloated, outrageous government can attempt control though, is to a: re-educate, to create good little subordinate workers; and b: to take their earnings, so they can’t afford to rebel against the atrocities unfolding at their eyes. We’re manipulated from very young ages, and for sure, if something were to happen in Dallas (i live outside austin), I wouldn’t be able to make the trip, stay up there to follow through, afford jail time and lose my job…I’m expendable, as are most people, but my mortgage requires money. As for the tax system, they are right about that. It wasn’t originally meant to a: be permanent; or be, fall on the hands of the individual. When taxes were originally created it was for corporations, well, since the federal government made corporations “persons”, it suddenly became clear that everyone be required, even though it was not supposed to be mandatory. The passing of that amendment was done on Christmas and without 2/3 full congress vote, or knowledge.

          • Jenjen

            we agree 🙂

          • Jenjen

            BUT lol
            I think it is a distraction and a diversion. And a way to pacify and/or scare the masses. We are doomed 🙂

          • 1bluebugg

            That we are, hun…doomed…if the right masses, such as ourselves look at it the right way though, we won’t be scared, or passive…if anything we will be stronger, supplied, ready, and hopeful that the future will be better than it is currently headed, and better than the past…here’s hoping, hun.

  • ravensrun65

    Is there anywhere else to view this video? Maybe upload it to vimeo or?
    My sincere condolnces to both families and their friends.

    • Jenjen

      youtube. com/watch?v=veEONs44rhM&feature=youtu. be

      you’ll have to remove the spaces

    • Jenjen

      I sent you the link for Gray State.
      After watching, I feel it’s just more propaganda, and is biased towards increasing the income disparity. IMHO… 🙂

      Look who all is in it, look who was making it. I do not trust it.

  • Jenjen

    This is total propaganda pushing an unethical agenda. I feel terrible the filmmaker’s death, I do think it’s suspicious. BUT…This movie is NOT for the people, for freedom. The movie is fear mongering. Fear against letting the “government” have control of our money (which would benefit society) and putting into the hands of the private citizen. IE. Corporations/Banks. Watch it, but be aware. There is truth in it, it is just terribly twisted. And there is enough conspiracy theory material in it that it degrades and discredits the actual truth. So frustrating!

    Look who all is in it, look at who was making it. I do not trust it.

    The problem IS our government is corrupt. We are basically under foreign occupation in the name of The Fed/IMF/WorldBank. They are controlling policy, they are waging wars. And using our corrupt “politicians” as willing pawns.

    And they are driving issues meant to keep we, the people, divided. All these partisan issues are meant to distract and divide and we all get drawn in. And we are fighting each other over what scarps they’ll give us. We focus on the other side of the aisle. The Main Stream Media just fuels all these issues, meant to encourage division. Black vs white, rich vs poor, makers vs takers, Repub vs Dem, Liberal vs conservative, religious divisions, racial divisions, income divisions. We focus on each other, when in reality, we are all getting burned and lied to.

    We need to be looking at all of THEM.

    The agenda is war mongering. World wide. It creates the chaos that we then all need their ‘system’ to contain. It’s like a sick self prophesy..
    And we are losing individual liberties one at a time.

    • tammyhill

      Jenjen, I believe you have stated an enormous truth. We do have tunnel vision and tend to see the smaller picture, as “they” intend. So far, “The Rise”, in my opinion is another 1984. Here is how I see it, This video (film) is a summary of what we saw back in the 70’s/80’s compared to 2014/15. All one has to do is look around and see all the camera’s, police dressed up and equipped with the “military grade gear”, “executive orders and laws”, etc and know what our near future holds. One can now read 1984 and understand, because it is right in our faces. We live with it on a daily bases. We see it grow rapidly!! The real problem, as you have stated, “nothing gets done where it matters”. “They” continue to move along their Agenda, World wide. That is a TRUTH that “I Believe” and I believe, “The Truth is The Big Picture”. We can continue to debate and fight about the individual tunnels they have set out for us, acting like the rats they think we are, or we can confront The Bigger Picture with our very lives in mind. I agreed with your statement Jenjen, about having the right to have “your” opinion allowed. I believe that shows a persons value in their brothers and sisters of our human race. As far as one of those people in the video (I confess I have not yet finished watching, “The Rise”), Ron Paul is my love! I love everything Ron Paul. He was my wake up call to pay attention and take off the “chosen” blinders I had on. (I really did make a conscious choice to not pay attention to anything going on outside of my own little world, because I knew when I did look, I would have no other option but to seek the TRUTH and that would be the smaller road less traveled) I thank God for Ron Paul almost everyday, sometimes multiple times a day. One of the many “wisdom’s” that Ron Paul teaches is, once you understand the bigger picture, you can never go back to not knowing. I can confess this to be very true. Over my 53 years here, I have met few people, that my soul feels well and at peace with. (When someone else’s morals and values sway a bit with God’s, your soul will not find peace) So, I fail to understand your pointing out to “look at who is in the film”, assuming you grouped them into a certain group. Because then I saw Alex Jones, whom does not settle well with my soul. I stopped watching him long ago. So can you talk about that part of your reasons…?

      • Jenjen

        First, since you mentioned 1984, I want to c/p what I wrote elsewhere, here:

        Our government is trying to rally up support for this War on Terror. The war is very much real, the terror is carefully cultivated.

        It is like the american public is unwittingly practicing doublespeak, but in real life.

        You know “doublespeak”, from the Orwell novel, 1984. It is simultaneously believing 2 opposing and contradictory beliefs such as…

        1 The US/NATO/IMF/PowersThatBe,etc are the warmongers and are responsible for the debt, death, and destruction around the world.

        2 All the garbage we’re fed incessantly from the MSM, (but muslims! Give me a break)

        For people to seemingly know all that (which I think a lot do even if they won’t say it) and not do something or at least be saying something. And all the while …keep practicing the religion of consumerism, and fearing the radical muslims. (Who’s existence is guaranteed by such behavior.) It’s crazy to me.

      • Jenjen

        My dig wasn’t at Ron Paul. It is at people like Alex Jones (shill), Mark dice (shill). Just look at the list of people involved even on the facebook page for gray state The Rise the movie! They blocked me btw, lol for questioning The validity of the rise! And for calling them out on their deception They deleted my comment and blocked me. Weak!

      • Jenjen

        Ok ask yourself this…
        NPR has deleted this comment once already…

        “What exactly is going on in our US government?? We have the administration clearly advancing KSA isis (salafi/wahabbi) agenda, we have congress inviting Netanyahu (Zionist) to Washington…
        Is this conflict “true” or is it manufactured??
        Is this a power struggle? And if so, what is the source of the opposing sides and who are their players??
        Just think about it…”

        • 1bluebugg

          I don’t like NPR either. 🙂

    • 1bluebugg

      There are apparently 2 Grey States…the original, and a sequel called: The Rise. It wasn’t meant to instill hatred of other people, it was meant to make aware to other people that the government controls everything you do. Why should our hard earned dollars be forced out of our pocket books and be given to the government? It is certainly not responsible with it, it can’t help vets, wellfare is practically permanent, it redistribute what you earn, and gives it to someone else. Then, it packs millions of freshly printed dollars into a large dufflebag, and drops it in the middle of a freshly created warzone, compliments of the U.S.A., as a payoff, and we are left picking up the interest given to us from the FED. It’s not fear mongering. It’s notification. Kids aren’t taught in school real education. Why did WW1 actually start? What actually began our fight with Japan in WW2? (sanctions against Japan led to their retaliation), and it’s happening again with Russia. ..really…Russia..no one with half a brain wants to fight Russia..even Hitler lost in Russia..the propaganda is on the t.v, NPR, and cable news. It comes out of the potus’ mouth every time he feels the itch to give something away free..again..Obama phones, cars, now houses and education..it’s not free, if everyone else has to scrape for their change for groceries. It’s not free if you own a multimillion dollar company and have to pay 65% in taxes..and it’s not free if I am forced, under duress to relinquish my future and my children’s future. I respect your opinion, but I don’t think the movie was propaganda. The movie was designed to make the watcher think about where their lives are going, and find another direction.

      • Jenjen

        I agree with some of that 🙂 I just do not want corporations getting more power either. The people, collectively, should have the power, at least ideally, no?

        (but i still think its propaganda) I respect your opinion though and I will think about it.

        • 1bluebugg

          Yes. And definitely not in the hands of government…especially a bloated, irresponsible one…my personal opinion of what we, as Americans should do about it goes one of two ways..and government doesn’t like my opinion of what we should do about its behaviour…lol

          • Jenjen

            and it is corrupt to the core.

          • 1bluebugg

            I cannot disagree.

        • 1bluebugg

          Ideally, yes, the power should most definitely be at the hands of the people, and tell ya what, if one of of those nozzles were to be in a room with 5,000 angry Americans and no security, they would most certainly change their tone, no hands raised, no violence ensued. The problem, is they are surrounded and comfortable. Even corporations…and corporate thugs and banksters would quake in their boots if they found themselves alone and outnumbered.

          • Jenjen

            I think the only place you and i split is that I think the movie is propaganda. The implied solution (in the movie) would benefit corps, AND in our case of corruption, back to government. I think it would further increase the income disparity. It diverts from the inherent problem.
            I don’t know that there is anything to be done anyway. america is asleep.

          • 1bluebugg

            I can agree to that. Hypothetically, what if we kept 98% earnings, 1% went to the deficit, 1% went to other than deficit, government cut the ABC’ agencies, as well as removed the ACA. Then, spent less on Foreign affairs and meddling, as well as travel and vacations, stagnated their pay, also term limits, had to use public trans during work weeks, returned industry, let’s say..a different wind mill program, and a tesla system, returned ‘government lands’ to the people, removed state income tax (texas doesn’t have anyway), as well as federal income tax, all other taxes and fees actually go to where they are supposed to, easy jobs can go to people with lower education (not required), more complicated to those who can perform the work, and keep the corporate tax (because it’s a building, not a person…never seen a building bleed, give birth, or masterbate), and for the people, constant offenders can earn a wage in the state capitols, town halls so it’s in the face of policy makers, state representatives. make up a job for them short papers were run errands or make coffee or something, or even have people to help out for a wage in the parks, at schools or in stores. I know some of these positions actually exist I know I’ve seen them listed here at home, but they are always posted. Anyway we agree, I’ll drink to that.

  • ravensrun65

    Excellent video, we can hope the others involved can see the final cut through to fruition. This is information the masses need to hear, learn and digest. Even if it goes against all they’ve been indoctrinated to believe.

    • Jenjen

      What in the world makes you believe that??
      IMO, it is total propaganda pushing an unethical agenda. I feel terrible the filmmaker’s death, I do think it’s suspicious. BUT…Do we even know if “The Rise” is the same as his movie “Gray State”? What if they wanted his movie gone and this in its stead?!

      • ravensrun65

        Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because I don’t believe the corporate owned media and corporate owned governemnt??? Are you a snitch for the feds, or what?

        • Jenjen

          Dude, nice try. Have you even read what I wrote?! As if the “feds” would approve of my opinion!

          Here are my thoughts on the whole thing… Now tell me if I would be “working fo rthe feds”. Nice trying to discredit me.

          This is total propaganda pushing an unethical agenda. I feel terrible the filmmaker’s death, I do think it’s suspicious. BUT…Do we even know if “The Rise” is the same as his movie “Gray State”? What if they wanted his movie gone and this in its stead?!
          This movie is NOT for the people, for freedom. The movie is fear mongering. Fear against letting the “government” have control of our money (which would benefit society) and putting into the hands of the private citizen. IE. Corporations/Banks. Watch it, but be aware. There is truth in it, it is just terribly twisted. And there is enough conspiracy theory material in it that it degrades and discredits the actual truth. So frustrating!
          Look who all is in it, look at who was making it. I do not trust it.
          The problem IS our government is corrupt. We are basically under foreign occupation in the name of The Fed/IMF/WorldBank. They are controlling policy, they are waging wars. And using our corrupt “politicians” as willing pawns.
          And they are driving issues meant to keep we, the people, divided. All these partisan issues are meant to distract and divide and we all get drawn in. And we are fighting each other over what scarps they’ll give us. We focus on the other side of the aisle. The Main Stream Media just fuels all these issues, meant to encourage division. Black vs white, rich vs poor, makers vs takers, Repub vs Dem, Liberal vs conservative, religious divisions, racial divisions, income divisions. We focus on each other, when in reality, we are all getting burned and lied to.
          We need to be looking at all of THEM.
          The agenda is war mongering. World wide. It creates the chaos that we then all need their ‘system’ to contain. It’s like a sick self prophesy. They have made it a never ending cycle. Our military is but a tool, a pawn. They are using them much as they used al qaeda or the mujihadeen when it was beneficial to advance their agenda. It has become no different if it ever was…
          And we are losing individual liberties one at a time.
          And our political system has been corrupted, through and through.

          • ravensrun65

            Seriously? Firstly, I’m not a dude. Secondly, I can just keep copy/pasting too. Thirdly, the feds never abide by any laws anyway, what would make me believe you weren’t an interloper? It would seem you have your blinders on nice and tight, just the way the government wants it. To cause division of the masses…that makes their goals so much easier to achieve. All of what I saw in this video, since this is the video that is available, not some “conspiracy theory” of a ghost second film, is facts. Maybe you should do some UNBIASED research and get that indoctrinated ideal out of your head. POLITICS=CORRUPTION!

          • Jenjen

            I pointed out the division that is being encouraged! Same as you. Please just refute any facts. CAn you?

        • Jenjen

          I answered you, in detail. Plus! lol I sent *you* the link for this movie. And then, I watched it. Maybe you’re the one with a hidden agenda. 🙂

          • ravensrun65

            All I asked for was another way to view the video. Not your biased vitriol you’re spamming these comments with. And, you posted that long after I had already gotten the link to view it from someone else over on twitter.
            You should go back and read everything again. I did not ask for your biased viewpoints. I simply asked for another way to view the video.
            Now, please, move on to someone that has the time to waste with you.

        • Jenjen

          That movie supports the corporate owned “everything”.

    • Jenjen

      You clearly posted your opinion. Others, including me, are allowed to refute it, to question it. I am not trying to shut you up. I am expressing myself and trying to make people think. Your attempt to insult and discredit me are duly noted. That is the behavior of “the feds” as you put it.

  • Gordy David

    What’s the deal with this video? don’t even know what it’s about…?!